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PROJECT LIFTS
...something more on the top of the mountains...
With this add-on I’m trying to add a long-awaited feature that MSFS in actually missing
Basically, all cable cars, gondolas and chair lift, and also those strange mixed-lifts in the World's Nothern Emisphere,
Other countries will come, with your kind help :D
The project started as a nice addition to my Trento Mattarello (LIDT) Airport scenery, if haven’t downloaded it yet, this is the link:
https://it.flightsim.to/file/12026/lidt-trento-mattarello-aeroporto-g-caproni
There are some ski resorts in the nearby (well, in Italy we have lots!), and I thought it could be a nice idea taking off with the nice helis we now have and do some aerial work in lifts! After some tinkering, I thought it would have been a long work adding every lift manually, so I wrote myself an “automatic” tool to create the needed scenery placement files.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE ASKING, THANKS!:
FEAUTURING:
- Cable cars, gondolas and chairlifts and the respective cables
- Drag lits (skilifts, t-bars, j-bars and platter), without cables (not enough clearence from terrain)
- Custom chairs, gondolas and cable cars cabin models, with some variations, chair type should be the correct one according to data source available, otherwise I’m throwing a random one
- Custom pylons and stations models (more variation will come, this is the easy part!)
- Night illumination on the ski slopes where appropriate
- Full PBR texturing, optimized fully custom 3d models with lods
- the package includes a special scenery with the full Skyway cable car experience, more info here:
https://flightsim.to/file/21922/skyway-mont-blanc-the-full-experience
Covering The whole World!!
(A map of all the lifts represented can be found here)
http://projectlifts.altervista.org/released.html
KEEP IN MIND:
The only way to place cable and cabins in the right position is having the precise altitude of the pylons and station.
At the moment I have no way to obtain altitude directly from MSFS, so I have to take it from a different source. I have tried using Bing elevation data, Google elevation Data, SRTM1 and ODP1, they are all good but no one match closely the msfs mesh.
If you look closely, you will find a lot of pylons soaked into the ground or floating a few centimeters above. The same will happen to the cables that should be attached to the stations (i can attach the cable to the station but this will lead to floating/buried stations, not the pleasant) .
If you don’t like them, you can download the version without cables (and pylons snapped to ground) here:
https://it.flightsim.to/file/22152/project-lifts-no-cable-version
Anyway, you are not supposed to fly that near to cables…..aren’t you?
WILLING TO HELP OR IMPROVE THE PROJECT? CONTINUE READING!
Using the public available openstreemap data, I added all stations and pylons of the lifts, and, of course, the cables!
Unfortunately, openstreemap data is not complete, or worse, is not perfect. Therefore, in order to obtain a plausible rendition I’ve to edit myself. Tons on data! There are thousands of pylons in the world, holy crap!
This could be the reasons why MSFS is waiting to add such data, too much manual work to do (and it is unlikely that they can manage pylon placing with AI)
There’s a lot of work to do, and, if you are interested, YOU can help as well.
How? Become a openstreemap editor?
It is very simple:
YOUTUBE TUTORIAL:
https://youtu.be/5aV2rkJ5HfA
- Sign in to openstreetmap.org https://www.openstreetmap.org/
- Click on edit -> edit with ID-Editor
- Zoom in an area that need attention
- Select some background satellite imagery, you can choose among a handful.
- Start adding pylons! Click on the lift path, click again where you want the pylon to be placed, click the newly added point and mark it as a pylon. Repeat until the end of the lift
- Save your work, that’s it
- PLEASE RESPECT OTHER MAPPERS WORK, if you are not sure on what you are doing, ask for help!
I will be adding pylons as well, and will update the package every now and then. Minor upgrades will be n.n.x version, major upgrade will be n.x.n version
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WANT TO HELP?
A LITTLE TUTORIAL FOR YOU:
YOUTUBE TUTORIAL:
https://youtu.be/5aV2rkJ5HfA
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Special thanks to:
OpenstreetMap.org and all the mappers
Gpsvisualizer.com for providing a WONDERFUL tool to get elevation data
Overpassturbo for data extraction
REVIEWS:
great review from CLUMSY https://youtu.be/kI3s5qhs9-Y
nice video from VIRTUAL AIRLINE PILOT https://youtu.be/p8nQZ6gUu5o
MSFS ADDONS review https://msfsaddons.com/2021/10/26/project-lifts-is-a-must-have-add-on-that-adds-cable-cars-gondolas-and-chair-lifts-to-msfs/
FLIGHT NEWS 24 review https://flightnews24.de/2021/10/29/msfs-freifahrt-fuer-seilbahnen-gondeln-und-sessellifte/
User Reviews
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Eine Bewertung schreibenDustin140
Hello, first of all great work. I noticed that there is a gondola going between two mountains in the south-east of Whistler (YWR) over the entire valley. This is probably just a missplacement since in rl in there are two gondolas going up each mountain. Maybe there is a possibility to fix that. Cause at the moment I always have to dodge it midair which is funny ngl but it would be nice if you could adjust it. Otherwise its a really good mod. Thx
mamu82 14 day(s) ago
Hi Dustin, Thanks a lot for your report!
Whistler is a pretty busy area, but I think you mean the Peak2Peak gondola!
And she is a single giant lift, so the implementation in the addon is mostly correct,
between the 2 main pylons there is a span of over 2 kilometers
(wire sag is not implemented in any of my addon because it will require several more objects per each wire)
there are crazy people that base jump from the cabins :
Peak 2 Peak BASE Jump - YouTube
backlash
Is there a way to exclude or deactivate the Zugspitze in Gemany? Cause there is a new addon with Heliport which conflicts with your scenery, Thx....
mamu82 18 day(s) ago
Maybe...the developer adding the zugspitze station can add the exclusion to its scenery?
Because, if I remove mine, all the people that haven't installed that addon won't see any lift
Project lift (and all my add-on) are loaded at low level in the sim on purpose, so every other developer making more detailed scenery can exclude them in a couple on seconds 🙂
rva1945
Is Mount San Jacinto tram (Palm Springs, CA) included?
mamu82 1 month(s) ago
Yes sir, should be there!
Ginete
Thank You!
mamu82 2 month(s) ago
Thanks!!
golfbravo
For several months now, I have been regularly downloading the files you made available to us to embellish MSFS.
Even if it is perfectible, we must encourage the authors who do an enormous work for free for our pleasure.
That's why today I made a happy new year gift to Mamu 😉)
mamu82 3 month(s) ago
Thanks so much for your donation!!
Your appreciation makes me so happy and encouraging going further with development!
Thanks!!
GunStrauss
I think the gondolas close to London City Airport don't lift up, to it's rather spectacular height, but rather just stays right above sea level. Is this an issue made by conflicting add-ons I have, or is it expected to render like this due to some limitations with this add-on?
mamu82 3 month(s) ago
Thanks for your report, It is a limitation of the add-on, all the lifts are created in a procedural way, most of them are correct (the follow closely terrain profile).
But in some specific cases it fails, the London gondola is one of them
The orbx London addon make a very good job with that piece of scenery, in the comments I have provided an modded scene to make Project Lifts compatible with that addon ☺️
GunStrauss 3 month(s) ago
Ok, thanks. I'll consider the ORBX, however, I'm not really a big fan of scenery that looks cartoon'ish compared to the photogrammetry sceneries. It seems like the ORBX landmark scenery was made before the London PG was released? But I admit that some of the objects and especially the gondola looks really nice!
TDZHDTV
Hi, truly loving this mod, genuinely given me so proper scares in VR when I haven’t been paying attention. One question, I have Orbx London landmarks and there is a clash with the sky gondola near EGLC airport, is there a way for me to remove this conflict? Many thanks
mamu82 4 month(s) ago
Yeah sure , can you please tell me where is the orbx addon installed? Community or Official? And if in Community I need to know the excat folder name to provided a package do exclude mine
TDZHDTV 4 month(s) ago
Hi, thanks for super-fast response, its in my official community folder, Many thanks for this help. file path E:\MSFS 2020\Community\london city EGLC
mamu82 4 month(s) ago
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vRM5QxjCNaydF_hhlnSjQdfvBjBsbdIu/view?usp=sharing
this should be enogh to remove my gondola in london 😀,
unzip in community
TDZHDTV 4 month(s) ago
Hi, unfortunately that didn’t work
mamu82 4 month(s) ago
Oh crap. I'm sorry, will work again on that and let you know asap
mamu82 4 month(s) ago
had to confirm that, if you have project lifts installed in
Community/a-mamudesign-projectlifts
and the london orbx package installed in
Community/orbx-landmarks-london-city-pack
and the fix installed in
Community/bmamudesign-exclude-london-gondola
the fix works (at least on my PC, but there is no reason it shouldn't work unless you have some special setup in content.xml or messed something with priority order
TDZHDTV 4 month(s) ago
Hi, sorry my error, It’s in the Official folder, not the community
TDZHDTV 4 month(s) ago
hey, are you still able to help me out please?
mamu82 4 month(s) ago
extract this FILE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16jR4wQlcqacaDJXR9rQuvpfmnOYdkF_w/view?usp=sharing
here
Community\a-mamudesign-projectlifts\scenery\mamudesign-projectLifts\scenery
and overwrite
if still there, remove the dat files inside
\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\SceneryIndexes
hope will work!
uli057
Hello,
please make your Scenery corrected for Köln City.
Make please a file for Users he has installed Köln City and your Great Scenery.
I cant to do this at next Time, i have another big Projekt a Pipe!!
Thx a lot
Uli 057 / Flydata
Bing
Hallo und herzlichen Dank für Dein Engagement den MSFS stetig zu verbessern.
Ich habe ein kleines Problem in Köln.
Deine Lifts/Gondeln über die Zoobrücke (Sailrailway over the Zoobridge) werden ebenso (auch) dargestellt, wie die Gondeln aus der Köln-City (Cologne-City) Datei von uli057, wenn diese Datei installiert ist. Eine Änderung der Scenery-Reihenfolge hat nicht geholfen.
Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, diese Lifts/Gondeln von uli057 bei Nutzung Deiner Datei zu excludieren (bzw. Deine Gondeln/Sailrailway in Köln/Cologne zu excludieren)!?.
Beste Grüße
Bing
mamu82 5 month(s) ago
Thanks Bing!
As per every other specific scenery, the Dev (I mean the Köln one in this case) should place exclusion when placing its models, especially now that there are a few "global mods" adding objects everywhere in the world (like mine or We love Vfr)
So you should really ask him to modify the Package, or you can make a simple project to exclude my work using this tutorial,
https://youtu.be/KEoiqxYpeVo
With the right package naming you will be able to remove my lift and retain his
Bing 5 month(s) ago
Danke für Deine schnelle Antwort und die Lösungsvorschläge.
mamu82 5 month(s) ago
Download this package in community to remove my lift there in Koln keep the Uli's one
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1it9ftHQbNfl2hQd_jLkMQ9KeB3IA6RHB/view?usp=sharing
Bing 5 month(s) ago
Thank you very much for your help!
jimbobro
Unbelievable! Makes Helo flying in the mountains so much more realistic... I've flown over many of my old skiing haunts and I must say that the lifts are pretty accurate... A must if you love mountain flying...
mamu82 6 month(s) ago
Thanks so much!
Looking forward for the next Anniversary update, hope that bring some new great helis and some HEMS missions as well!
jimbobro 6 month(s) ago
The working gondola at Mt Blanc is amazing, also d/l the docks and power lines... awsome work!
Flusikussi
In Cologne the lifts are to low.
mamu82 7 month(s) ago
Thanks for your report, that's expected and written in description, due to differences from the simulator digital elevation model and my source data. Unless ms give me open access to their dem base there is a possibility to have too low or too high lifts
wackydude75
Stuttering since SU9. Without no Problems. Really a pity, since the mod was very nice..
mamu82 10 month(s) ago
Any specific zone where you experienced the issue?
Su9 is a bit heavy for a lot of sceneries, but I'm not experiencing any major issues with the add-on
(I have still room for improvement anyway and an update will come)
wackydude75 10 month(s) ago
Having major problems all over Germany
Roi1862
This a great addon ! since SU9 where we all trying to reduce stuttering, i found in the console while on dev mode the following error while its loading this addon: Invalid script (command not found - perhaps a space is missing or there's an extra space?): ";"
There hundred of these occurrences. Do you think something is changed SU9 ?
mamu82 11 month(s) ago
Thanks Roi!
I'm too committed to trying to avoid to all of you any problems with my addons!
While the Project Lifts still have some room for improment,
However, I can't find in the console, among 2000 messages, any "Invalid" or "script" related to my addons (or related to other addons)
Roi1862 11 month(s) ago
This sim is so weird… 😊
flusiflo
makes so much more immersion to the sim. thanks
mamu82 11 month(s) ago
Thanks so much my friend!
flusiflo 11 month(s) ago
can you please tag the mod as SU8 compatible? its still marked red.
mamu82 11 month(s) ago
Thanks for the heads up, done!
akbruins
Great work! Thank you for this addon; I fly in the mountains a lot and I consider this a must-have! The lack of these ski lifts in the base game was always something that bugged me and hurt immersion.
My local ski resorts in the northeastern US all look great! Noticed some lifts on approach to LOWI in the CRJ as well. Great stuff!
mamu82 11 month(s) ago
Thank you sooo much! That was excatly my feeling when "flying" in the mountains, alla thos areas without trees, empty!
I know why no one hadn't try to to the this before, it required a MOUNTAIN of work placing the pylons in the exact spots to achieve a realistic result!
But now, the data is available for everyone, so hope asobo will consider pushing this in the base sim as soon as possible!
fosheem Prämie
World Update 8 duplicated your lift in the Canary Island. Also, did you create the delightfully animated Vizcaya Bridge (cable car-like ferry) in Bilboa, Spain? Microsoft duplicated that bridge/lift too.
Still a GREAT package, can't imagine flying without it!
The_LAW__tOot
I really enjoy this mod, it's a must have 😍
Is it possible that you had the same wires collision properties thats available on your "Powerlines and Solar Farms".
As an Heli Simer, it would make me reconsider my flying skills 😂
And also on the "Powerlines and Solar Farms" mod, is it possible to had collisions to the Aerial marker balls wires.
As of right now, I can pass throught them, is it on purpose ?
flusiflo
is this SU8 compatible? WU8 next week is right around the corner.
mamu82 1 year(s) ago
It Is compatible with SU8, yes, and the world update shouldn't cause any problems, hopefully!
Usually Custom sceneries are Little to no affected by Sim/world updates,
I'm also trying so stay close with Asobo recommendation for scenery making, to ensure the best performance possible 😉
Scotty
Flew from LOIR in Austria and saw your Cable cars.Shouldn't they be moving?
Just a question !
mamu82 1 year(s) ago
HI Scotty, nope, they are not, unfortunatly
the only moving cable cars in my scenery are those in the Skyway Package (Chamonix-Courmayeur),
to move objects one need to make a dedicate objects in Blender or 3ds Max, one per each lift (and it takes a lot of time..)
When proper documentation will be released, i will try to extend the movment programmatically to all the cable cars ( while chair lifts and gondolas will stay in place most likely forever!)
Scotty 1 year(s) ago
Ah, ok. Neverthrless super idea! I like it !!
ScarsStitches
Does this have a hit on FPS in any slight tiny way, shape or form? Thank you!
mamu82 1 year(s) ago
Thank you man, Everything you put in the simulator has a hit
Maybe, in some big resorts fps can have fluctuations, i have done every know optimization to the models to minimize them
Anyway,
You can try it yourself for the special price of nothing 😅