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Experience Switzerland!
This mod contains customized height profiles for Switzerland. The mod contains high definition LIDAR DEM data with a mesh resolution of 20m, whereas the MSFS uses a lateral resolution of about 50m or worse. The height resolution is as good as 0.1m.
The mod does not only provide mountain shapes being very close to reality, but also flattens lakes & rivers and gets rid of any terrain artifacts.
Update 1.2:
Additionally included are 3 extreme LIDAR meshes with a resolution of 1m for Matterhorn, 2m for Jungrau-Aletsch region and 2m Säntis.
If you suffer any major stutters or problems, simply delete these 3 folders!
IMPORTANT
Disclaimer: The creator of this mod is not responsible for any problems, damage, incompatibilites to other mods or performance issues that might occur.
Please note, that this mod is a very high resolution mesh covering the whole of Switzerland. The elevation data is applied through terraforming rectangles, thus loaded at a certain distance from the player. When travelling fast or at high alitude (wide range of view) there might be too many new rectangles loaded simultaneously and thus stutters might occur.
If you have any stutters you can try and reduce your ingame render settings or uninstall!
If you are mainly flying airliners in high altitude, there is probably no benefit for you in using this mod.
Affected Sceneries
As it stands, the famous Matterhorn mountain, is extremely realistic on the Swiss side, but has bumps on the Italian side. I hope you will excuse this glitch for the time being.
Please report any bugs with sceneries or airports and I will see what I can do!
If you use the Austria DEM as well, you can rename the folder "troglodytus-demswitzerland..." into "aaa-troglodytus-demswitzerland". This way in overlapping regions the higher quality Austrian mesh will be used.
Credits
The elevation data used was a LIDAR 20m height profile of Switzerland compiled by Sonny (http://data.opendataportal.at/dataset/a949dd6f-9f19-4727-872c-b70d35adb550)
It was then transfered into MSFS using MSFS Toolkit by Nool Aerosystems (https://msfs.nool.ee/)
Thank you both and for anyone reading this: Please go ahead and support them!
Enjoy your VFR flights above Switzerland!
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aurel42
Sorry for this weird request, but do you think a patch of the "extreme" resolution mesh could "fix" the Hirschensprung in the Alpine Rhine Valley? It seems like it would be a fun challenge to fly through that chasm, but I guess we would have to be really, really lucky with the position of the data points, because it's so narrow.
coordinates: 47.303611, 9.547795
more info and pic: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirschensprung
Troglodytus 2 month(s) ago
Thank you for the request, it looks really cool. I will see what I can do. No promises though!
derstein98
After World Update 6 do recommendto use your DEMs of DACH? Or is stock better?
You did fantastic work on these DEms
Troglodytus 2 month(s) ago
Hello, thank you very much. I just have had a short period of testing, not enough to say anything conclusively. It seems as if the now default mesh is better in quality, however, there seem to be more "pop ins" of spikes.. have to test further!
derstein98 2 month(s) ago
thanks for your honest opinion!
Saurer01 1 month(s) ago
did you download it? is it worth it after WU6?
derstein98 1 month(s) ago
nope. i am waiting for troglodytus opinion
Troglodytus 1 month(s) ago
It is pretty much as I was thinking before. The default mesh is now in a better resolution than this mod. However, the LODs of the default mesh are not very good, meaning you get rounded mountains as soon as you are a few km away. Also there are strong "pop-in" of elevation data (the mountains are "morphing") when being close. This effect is reduced with my mod.
It is a matter of preference at this point. If you are flying close to the mountains and get annoyed by morphing terrain, I would recommend usind this DEM mod.
carlos 1 month(s) ago
Thanks because flyning close to the mountains is like seeing a jelly
P.Dig
Just installed this and I can't notice any difference. Flew to the Matterhorn and it looked like a lumpy mess! All I have to do is drag the folders into Community, yeah?
P.Dig 3 month(s) ago
I tried pasting a screenshot here but it didn't work.
https://imgur.com/Lla36lu
Troglodytus 3 month(s) ago
Really? You can't notice any difference? Look at the image you send me. You can see each and every detail of Matterhorns Hörnligrat. Please take a look at Matterhorn again without the mod, hopefully you can see the differences. This Mod contains elevation data, so it modifies the terrain only, not the satellite images. If you want better satellite imagery you have to talk to Asobo/Microsoft. I can not deliver that, at least not not for free.
g_1
Brillant work! Thank you!
Btw, can you help me with exporting Matterhorn scene to Blender? I failed to convert .bgl to .obj using ModelConverterX.
Troglodytus 3 month(s) ago
Thank you for your comment and your rating.
I don't quite understand what you mean though. What do you want to export?
g_1 3 month(s) ago
I'm trying to recreate Matterhorn model in Blender (mesh). So I need good resolution heightmap at least, or mesh with textures at most.
Troglodytus 3 month(s) ago
I am not sure if there is a way to convert the height maps I am using into something useful using the modelconverter. Try downloading the google maps photogrammetry usign the renderdoc method. That should give you a pretty reasonable mesh for guidance!
g_1 3 month(s) ago
Thank you for an answer! I'l try.
Troglodytus 3 month(s) ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XsmoZJmG8
BEB17138
Merci pour ce partage
Troglodytus 4 month(s) ago
You are welcome!
jagace
Hi Mr T....Stunning work mate..Flew over in VR In the H135 jaw dropping scenery..highly recommend all you scenerys...slight stutters only.
Troglodytus 4 month(s) ago
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoy!
Sonny2
I created another finer model (10m resolution) of Sonny LIDAR DTMs of Switzerland. Perhaps this could be a benefit for Troglodytus' High-quality Scenerys of the rocky, alpine surroundings in Switzerland, like the 10m DEM-model of Austria did.
https://data.opendataportal.at/dataset/dtm-switzerland
yanlaoge
Thank you for the great effort. You mentioned that If we use the Austria DEM as well, we can rename the folder "troglodytus-demswitzerland..." into "aaa-troglodytus-demswitzerland". This way in overlapping regions the higher quality Austrian mesh will be used. Can you explain what "aaa" mean in this case? Does this makes its mesh folder low priority?
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Hi! Thanks for your comment. The overlap is in fact really small, its just a small optimization for mountains right on the border.
The reasoning is as follows: I have learned in the past that msfs loads all mods alphabetically. That is why I was affected very much from the „modellib“ issues. Some mods had faulty „modellib“ data and caused mods that were loaded after to fail. Thats why I am suggesting to rename switzerland to something very early in the alphabet. This way it is ensured the higher quality mesh gets loaded on top / after. Meshes can be given certain priorities, but in order to mess up as few 3rd party sceneries and mods as possible, I had to leave this priority setting at 0 for all meshes. So the only distinction between my meshes is the load order.
yanlaoge 5 month(s) ago
Thank you very much for the explanation!
swifty
Im new to msfs 2020 how do you actually load the update into the program?
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Not sure if I understand correctly. If you happen to have an older version of this mod installed, simply delete the folder from your community folder and copy the folder from the new download into the community folder. Simple as that 😊
swifty 5 month(s) ago
So as I understand I just extract the folder into the community folder in msfs2020
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Exactly!
SkylaneMarty
Fantastic work! On my system Windows 10 21H1 (build 19043.1023) (MSFS 1.16.2.0) and nVidia graphics drivers 457.30 (for VR), the 1m Matterhorn mesh floats like an island above the normal terrain. I can actually fly under it. Any suggestions?
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Thank you for your comment. Does it "pop" back into place, once you get really close to it?
That is an odd behaviour and should not happen. Can you message me a screenshot maybe?
Gberthe
Excellent job... this was what we were waiting for... THANKS !
There might be a little "bug" in LSGE (Ecuvillens in Switzerland): could you make the small correction needed to have the parking lots flat ? On the picture you can see there is a kind of slope appearing after installing your MOD, making impossible for the plane to get to the runway.. (do you have an email, so that I can send you the picture?)
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Thank you very much. No need for the picture, I am just gonna exclude that airfield with the next update. That should then resolve the issue. Thank you for reporting. 😊
spaltchr
It looks stunning from the ground, but immediately after rotation the sim crashes to a black screen after yesterday's update... Might there be a context?
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Have been flying above Austria with the meshes active without any problems.
Gonna check Switzerland as well, but I honestly cannot think of a reason why the CTD should be caused by the mesh.
I try and verify if the CH mesh causes issues and I recommend that you use the "addon linker" available on flightsim.to to check all your mods for any modellib issues.
spaltchr 5 month(s) ago
this is exactly how i‘ve done it. linked to the folder via addon linker. and after the third crash i deactivated the dem in the linker, restarted the sim with the same settings as before and takeoff went without any problems. i assume that there has to be a context.
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Could you try and rename the DEM data to something like "aaa-troglodytus-demswitzerland....." and try again? Is it still crashing with that adjustment?
SAS61Z
Hi,
this is soo awesome! First I visited Davos where I stay every year for vacations. With this mod one can recognize every mountain by its specific shape so much better than with the default topography. I am really impressed. Thank you very much for your great work!
Big thumbs up and of course five stars!
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Thank you very much 😊 Glad you enjoy!
eaglechlapf
Just WOW! Just flew over the Säntis and the details are amazing! Thank you so much!
Is it possible to include the Churfirsten with the same resolution as the Säntis? They now look out of place with the beauty of the Säntis next to it 😂
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Hi, hello! Thank you for your words. I had a few other mountains in mind for optimization, however, churfirsten seems fine to me with 20m? Or should I consider it?
eaglechlapf 5 month(s) ago
With the 20m resolution, they just look like "humps" instead of the sharp edges that they have. Would be cool if you could fit them in the same package as the Säntis, as they are right next to each other. Is there a good tutorial on how to make those DEM's with QGIS?
mrnice111
hi awesome work, but if you start from locarno airport at night, there are some floating lights near the airport and over the city
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
That has nothing to do with my mod. This is a common and known problem in the simulator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lMr9JXU04&t=947s
In the video they are stating that they fixed it, but they never did. I can still find the floating lights all over the earth.
mrnice111 5 month(s) ago
ok thx😉
raffzeit
This is just amazing. I'm so thankful! A new VFR life begins!
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Thank you for your comment. You are very welcome!
iCeManxTT
to me its crap the mountain floats in the air
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
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It would be of great use, if you could elaborate a bit further. Which mountain in specific? Can you provide any screenshots?
d18961
Hello! Thanks for great the scenery! But is it also with you that with the installation also the photogrammeteric data of Zurich disappears?
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Thank you for your comment. That issue should have been resolved with update 1.2 of this mod. Do you have the current version installed and did you delete any previous version, before installing 1.2?
d18961 5 month(s) ago
Oh wow, thanks for ur advise. Now its working!
Greetings from Basilea.
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Glad its working, that's most important for me 😊 Wish you many beautiful flights!
charliebravoAT
Amazing work, especially the newest version with the beautiful Matterhorn working 😊
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoy!
Terblanche
For some reason I can't reply to my other comment regarding stutters in Switzerland. I've uninstalled all the DEM files and then tried them one by one. Austria works like a charm, so does the Italian, Slovenia, and Slovakia files. Took a flight from Bratislava over Ljubljana and the moment I got to Lugano the stutters began - that's without Matterhorn, Jungrau-Aletsch, and Säntis installed. For some reason my rig does not like Switzerland.
Also took a flight from Perpignan to Bilbao across the majestic Pyrenees Mountains. Hopefully Asobo will update the ground textures of that area because they are very low resolution. Once again, THANK YOU, for adding so much detail and splendour to the scenery.
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
That's strange. I also heard that people struggle in the Salzburg area in Austria. No idea why the struggle is specific to certain areas.
Do you have any other 3rd party addons installed ? Airports, photogrammetries?
Terblanche 5 month(s) ago
The problem with the Salzburg area is the CGL file if you have Digital Design's scenery installed. Once you disable (turn it *.off) that file then Salzburg works like a charm.
In Switzerland I have LSZS, LSGS, LSZH, and LSGG installed but I did try to fly with them uninstalled and although it was 'better' it still had those awkward micro-pauses that I simply don't understand.
It is really strange that no other of your DEM packages have any influence on the fluency or FPS and only Switzerland has this anomaly.
Troglodytus 5 month(s) ago
Regarding Salzburg I had the same suspicion. Also think it is due to the Salzburgs airports Sat Images. That's why I was asking about the situation with 3rd party addons in Switzerland.
Really sorry that you experience those kind of stutters and I am even more sorry that I cannot offer any immediate solution.
Please keep me informed if you find any setup that works better. Thanks a lot!
Cheers!
Terblanche 5 month(s) ago
Will do ... if for some reason an answer represents itself, I'll drop you a note.
Thank you for your help.
quelcertoleo 4 month(s) ago
Had the same issue as you with this incompatibility between DigitalDesign LOWS and the mesh.
Thing is however that after installing any mesh in the area (Austria, German, Swiss and Italian alps) the game will become unplayable, unusable, a stutter fest.
The only workaround I've found so far is uninstalling LOWS Scenario.
Troglodytus 4 month(s) ago
Thank you for your comment. I have no idea what is up with that... but to be fair, using LOWS alone without any other mod I loose a few frames as well. Its just amplified using the DEM data. Not sure how to overcome these issues.